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Scrapheap Saviors: Brian Sabean’s Moves Keep Giants in Title Contention

If you talk to any Giants fan this year, they’ll probably talk to you about Aaron Rowand’s dismal slump, the equally underwhelming season by Bengie Molina, and the slight concern about franchise players Tim Lincecum and Pablo Sandoval and their sub-par seasons.

You’ll hear stories about the lack of opportunity for young guys like Nate Schierholtz and John Bowker and the clamoring for youngsters like Buster Posey and Madison Bumgarner.

And, as always, you’ll hear plenty of criticism for San Francisco general manager Brian Sabean and manager Bruce Bochy.

Admittedly, there are things that I will never understand, like why Rowand and Molina are still playing so much even though they’re slumping so hard, or why Nate Schierholtz doesn’t play against left-handed batters even those he’s smoking them for a .375 average.

But there is one thing that Giants faithful can’t argue with, and that’s the fact that Sabean has made some more bargain moves this year that have really paid off.

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Giants Might Have More Moves in Mind

The Giants have recalled Buster Posey and signed Pat Burrell to a minor league deal, leaving some to question where all the pieces will fit if things go as the club would like.

Posey started with a bang on Saturday night, playing first base. Let’s imagine that he is in the big leagues to stay. And, let’s pretend that the veteran outfielder Burrell uses his time in the minor leagues to prove he belongs in the big leagues.

What would happen to Aubrey Huff? He’s a first baseman and wouldn’t take Posey’s job. He’s a left fielder, but couldn’t handle AT&T’s expansive right field if Burrell were to return to his 2008 form.

Nate Schierholtz is the best defensive right fielder on the club, but the Giants would have to decide if they wanted a Burrell, who proves himself productive in a pinch-hitting role given that he hit 33 homers in his last full year in the National League. What about Schierholtz?

Andres Torres is proving he belongs in the big leagues. He gives the Giants their best defense in center field and can play right field well. Plus, he’s got the skills a true leadoff hitter needs, so the club needs him in the order when he’s hitting. Does Torres become a right fielder if Burrell becomes the left fielder?

This is putting the cart way ahead of the horse. Burrell has a lot to prove. There haven’t been this many folks insisting that a guy who switched leagues was a career-ending tailspin, since Giants fans were insisting that Barry Zito should be released after his first two abysmal seasons.

But what if Burrell does pull a Zito and returns to somewhere near the form that made him a 30 homer-90 RBI guy two years ago?

It could be that the Giants have a bigger move in mind if Posey pans out and Burrell returns to slug like he once did.

The club might be considering trading catcher Bengie Molina to a contender looking for a veteran backstop. He can call a game, sure, but he’s called the games lately where Tim Lincecum got rocked. The pitchers still make the pitches.

Molina has driven in just two runs since April 18. Fans love him and consider him the heart of the team. But, he clogs up the bases and if the New York Yankees or Boston Red Sox are interested in Molina to hit seventh or eighth and provide stability behind the plate—the Giants would be in position to move him if Posey and Burrell perform.

Another possibility could be that the Giants could ship center fielder Aaron Rowand to a contender where he could return to the supporting role he handled so well for the Phillies and White Sox. That opens center field for Torres and, perhaps, even Schierholtz. (It also clears payroll off the books.)

If the Giants were willing to package Molina in a trade, they could solve the lineup riddle by trying to deal him to Boston for right fielder J.D. Drew.

The Giants open a spot for Posey behind the plate. Drew becomes the everyday rightfielder, a proven performer who has fallen out of favor with the Red Sox. He’s a left-hand power hitter with some speed. Huff returns to first base full-time. Left field opens up for Burrell and Torres.

See? If everything falls together, the Giants could take their talented farm system and hook up with the Red Sox (also with a nice group of prospects) to completely change the lineup.

It’s odd that folks assume the Giants would just keep adding ill-equipped defensive outfielders who can hit some, without an idea in mind to clear some playing time if they all slam their way into the lineup.

If Posey hits, Posey stays in the big leagues. And, it’s generally accepted that Molina isn’t comfortable with sharing his job. So perhaps, trading the popular veteran catcher would be doing him a favor?

Rowand would seem to be without value to the Giants, but he has proven he can help a championship-type team. Send him where his big contract isn’t an issue and where he isn’t pressured to be a big-time run producer and—he could have value indeed.

The Yankees gave former Giants right fielder Randy Winn his outright release on Thursday. That opens a spot for a veteran outfielder in the Yankees lineup and, obviously, Rowand’s contract wouldn’t scare them off if they felt he could help them.

In fact, Molina would fill a hole in New York bigger than the one he could fill in Boston. He can catch until injured Jorge Posada returns, the fill in as a designated hitter for the team that lost DH Nick Johnson to injury earlier.

These are the thoughts fans of a playoff contender should have, rather than those involving who to blame for the most recent 3-1 loss.

Ted Sillanpaa is a Northern California sports writer and columnist. Reach Ted at: tsillanpaa1956@gmail.com

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Fantasy Baseball Scouting Report: Andres Torres

The San Francisco Giants’ Andres Torres has gone from fantasy obscurity to fantasy relative over the past few days, having claimed the leadoff spot in the order.  In 10 games batting atop the lineup (through Thursday), he’s hit .289 with 0 HR, 3 RBI, 7 R and 4 SB.  Overall, he’s posted the following line:

115 At Bats
.296 Batting Average (17 Hits)
2 Home Runs
12 RBI
16 Runs
6 Stolen Bases
.386 On Base Percentage
.496 Slugging Percentage
.352 Batting Average on Balls in Play

It’s easy to get excited about someone with speed hitting leadoff, but do not get carried away.  Torres is no spring chicken, making his major league debut for the Tigers back in 2002.  At 32-years old, we should have a very good idea of exactly what he is.

A fourth-round draft pick in 1998, Torres stole 313 bases over his 3,732 AB in the minor leagues.  While he stole as many as 67 bases back in 2000, the totals have regressed since then.  Just look at his numbers from 2006-2008:

  • 2006 – 19
  • 2007 – 22
  • 2008 – 29

Last season he saw just 59 AB in the minor leagues and 152 in the majors, compiling eight SB.  Does he have speed?  Absolutely, but I wouldn’t expect him to emerge as one of the elite base stealers in the game.

Considering how bad the Giants offense is, do you really expect him to score a bundle of runs as well?  He’s going to get a few, but again, don’t look for him to come close to the league leaders thanks to the real lack of production behind him.

That’s a huge detriment, because what exactly is he going to be able to bring to the table?  He was a career .272 hitter in the minor leagues and while he’s hitting .296 thus far, you have to wonder if he will be able to maintain it.

He has very little power, with just 46 minor league home runs.  His career high was 11 back in 2008, but he spent that year in the Pacific Coast League, so how can we take that seriously?

His speed is his one true endearing quality, and while there’s upside there, the chances of him stealing 40-plus bases seem quite minimal.  Without that, he just doesn’t bring much to the table.  The anemic offense means non-elite runs-scored levels.  He has no power.  He’s not likely to be a .300 hitter.

The bottom line is, outside of the deepest five-outfielder (or NL-only) leagues, he has little value to fantasy owners.  As it is, is there a guarantee that he even remains an everyday player?  I know people are desperate for speed, but there are certainly more productive options available.

What are your thoughts on Torres?  Is he a player you think I am being too harsh about?  Why or why not?

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