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Joe Saunders, the Tears Keep Coming…for the Fans

Joe Saunders, the man who wept when he was traded to the Diamondbacks, has made fans weep this entire spring, and last night was the biggest cry-fest of all.  In a game that Saunders needed to pitch well he fell flat. 

After being inconspicuously omitted when Kirk Gibson was naming the starters earlier in the week the pressure was on Saunders to have a quality outing and show that he deserves to be one of the five.

Saunders answered the bell, for two innings, and then proceeded to allowing five runs, six hits, and four walks in his remaining three innings of work.  More troubling, and something that Diamondbacks fans saw repeatedly with former closer Chad Qualls last season, is that Saunders insists he threw the ball well with a few exceptions.

Compounding matters is the fact that Kirk Gibson essentially called him out after the game, citing that the team needs guys who can deal with pressure.  There appears to be a bit of friction between the hard nosed, old school Gibson and Saunders.

Most likely, Saunders will be in the starting rotation as of Opening Day, and he’ll have one more chance to attempt to have a decent outing before the start of the season. But when Diamondbacks’ fans remember that this is what the team got for Dan Haren, the tears come a’flowing.

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Great Career Move: 10 Starters Mariners Should Lure to Pitching-Friendly Safeco

Pitchers in hitter-friendly ballparks or tough divisions may benefit from being traded. The same applies to struggling pitchers in search of redemption.

The Seattle Mariners would be a good destination for such pitchers. The home of the Mariners, Safeco Field, is the most pitching-friendly venue in the American League and the AL West division isn’t too frightening.

The following ten pitchers would benefit from moving to Seattle. Interested to find out who they are? Read on.

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2011 Fantasy Baseball Pitching Preview: Daniel Hudson and Arizona Diamondbacks

For a team with 70 or fewer wins in the last two seasons, the Arizona Diamondbacks actually have several useful fantasy players.  

The first of those players to come to mind for most people would be position players.  Guys like Justin Upton, Chris Young (still cannot believe he is useful again), Stephen Drew and Miguel Montero are all useful fantasy hitters.  

Also, the addition of J.J. Putz means 2011 will not be a constant closer guessing game in Arizona as it was in 2010 (at least until Putz gets hurt).  

However, Arizona’s rotation may be somewhat overlooked.  While their staff may not be among the league’s elite, there are certainly fantasy relevant guys in the rotation.

No matter what the depth chart on the D’Backs home page says, Joe Saunders is not the No. 1 starter on this team.  

Although Saunders won 17 games in 2008 and 16 games in 2009, he really was not that good and only accumulated four Wins Above Replacement (WAR) over those two seasons. 

Not exactly sure what that means?  Let me put it this way: Gavin Floyd had a 4.3 WAR last year with only 10 wins and a plus-4.00 ERA.  Saunders clearly benefited from playing on two AL West-winning Angels teams.  

Saunders’s ERA has been over 4.40 in all but one fluke season, and his career K/9 is 5.14.  As you can see, Saunders is no staff ace, but more like a third or fourth starter on a team with a very thin rotation.  He might be useful in deep NL-only leagues, but for where you will have to draft him to get him, you should probably avoid him altogether.

In my opinion, the true “ace” of the staff is Daniel Hudson. 

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Colorado Rockies, Troy Tulowitzki Pound Diamondbacks for Eighth Straight Win

It doesn’t matter who is on the mound when an offense puts up 13 runs.

That is what the Rockies did to the Diamondbacks in a 13-4 win that featured two more Troy Tulowitzki home runs.

The victim this time was Arizona starter Joe Saunders. The lefty was acquired from the Angels for Dan Haren in late July, and, as many Rockies fans may remember, completely dominated the same Rockies team that he faced tonight back in June.

With the Giants 1-0 win over the Padres at Petco Park, the Rockies move to within 2.5 games of the division lead.

The Rockies have suddenly erupted onto the scene.

Just a week ago they were all but counted out of the race. They had lost to the Phillies in a wild 12-11 one-game makeup at Coors Field and had lost three in a row. That was the last time they lost.

The person responsible for the road to redemption would most likely be Carlos Gonzalez. He has carried the team offensively for the season. However, as he has fallen into a mini-slump, Troy Tulowitzki has picked up the slack.

On Friday night, he homered twice in a game for the second time this week. His home runs came a day after hitting the tying home run against the Reds, as the Rockies rallied all the way back from 5-0.

The shortstop now has eight home runs in his last nine games.

At 2.5 games out of the division race, it is scary to imagine where this team may actually be if the All-Star had not been hit by a pitch in Minnesota in June, causing him to miss six weeks of the season.

Tulowitzki is coming into his own right before fans’ eyes.

It took him a little while to find his power stroke after the injury, but clearly it is back. Neither one of his Friday night blasts were Coors Field home runs. Those balls would find the seats in any ballpark throughout the league.

After witnessing miraculous come-from-behind runs from this Rockies club in two of the past three seasons, it is almost becoming expected that this team is going to put it in fifth gear and find a way to make the playoffs in 2010.

If any team in the league can fall as far as 11 games out of the division in August, as the Rockies did, and then find themselves with a legitimate shot at winning that division, it is the Rockies.

The fact is, everyone who has watched them play all year knows that they have had the potential to be the team that they are right now. They have finally hit their stride.

All season long there has been a sense that they simply are not playing like the team that everyone knows that they can be. Suddenly, the Rockies have arrived.

With the Giants and Padres beating up on each other in San Diego over the weekend, continuing to play good baseball is of utmost importance for the Rockies. If they continue to win, they will keep their foot on the throats of the two teams in front of them, causing them to feel the pressure.

The real Rockies have finally shown up. They may be late to the party, but they are making sure that they don’t leave without their presence felt. Whether they showed up too late or not is still to be determined, but the Rockies don’t look like a team that is about to quit.

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MLB Trade: Dan Haren To Angels for Joe Saunders and Junk

Well, Dan Haren was finally traded, but not to the New York Yankees, Philadelphia Phillies, or St. Louis Cardinals—three teams that really want another top hurler.

Haren was traded to the Los Angeles Angels for left-handed, back-end starter Joe Saunders and three pitching prospects. None of these returning pitchers were top-10 prospects in the Angels organization.

Kudos to Angels GM Tony Reagins for swooping in late and pulling off this coup.

Several factors indicate that acting Arizona GM Jerry DiPoto jumped the gun and reached on this deal.

First, while Saunders is regarded as a nice pitcher, and will replace Haren on the Diamondbacks rotation, he is not nearly in the same class as Haren. Despite both having similar ERAs, Haren is much more a strikeout pitcher while Saunders pitches to contact.

Not that pitching to contact is bad, but when you add in Haren’s reluctance to walk anyone, his zenith could explode much higher than Saunders’ ever will.

Second, the Diamondbacks were interested in also having teams paying Haren’s entire salary. This money includes about $3 million more this season, $12.75 million in 2011 and 2012, plus a $15.5 million 2013 option (or $3.5 million buyout).

Yes, that is more than what Saunders is owed, as Big Joe is still under team control for two more arbitration seasons. Saunders’ two arbitration seasons could net him about $12 million over that span.

The Diamondbacks are saving money, but the money is not as big of a difference as you would think they could have gotten.

Third, the minor league pitchers received aren’t impact-type guys. Patrick Corbin is a 20-year-old who has generated a High-A Cal League 5-3 record with 3.88 ERA and a K/9 rate of 9.5. This is after a Low-A 8-0 record with a 3.86 ERA with a 6.5 K/9 rate.

This is the best minor league guy in the deal, which means the deal is not great for Arizona. Rafael Rodriguez is 25 and an okay guy, but is also a bullpen arm. Unless he miraculously turns into Mariano Rivera, or even Ocatvio Dotel, his career is not going to be noteworthy.

Except for this bad trade.

A player to be named is likely to be Tyler Skaggs, the Angels supplemental first-round pick last year. He is throwing well so far this season, his first full year, but is at least four seasons away.

What the Diamondbacks did not do is center their deal with the Angels over their top guy, heavy-hitting outfielder Mike Trout, also a 2010 Futures Game participant. Trout is a great combination of power and speed, who also makes great consistent contact.

That’s a far cry from what current third baseman Mark Reynolds offers the Diamondbacks.  

Hint for teams wishing to trade a top player for young talent: Always seek out the other teams’ Futures Game players. Every organization is represented by two players, and they are usually some of the best players in that team’s system!

While the deal clearly favors the Angels, it will not help the Halos this year. It’s more of a trade for 2011 and 2012.

The Texas Rangers are too far ahead in the standings, have the better ace in Cliff Lee, a very solid bullpen, and a much more potent lineup.

I do not believe they will stumble over the next two months, and they might be the team to beat in the American League.

So, the Diamondbacks received a lesser Major League talent, did not save as much money on the deal as you would expect, and did not receive the Angels’ best prospects.

Not a good first attempt in acting GM Jerry DiPoto’s first foray into the wheeling and dealing of high-stakes baseball deals.

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LA Angels Insider.com Podcast: Saunders and Reagins React To Haren Trade

On Sunday, the Angels acquired right-handed pitcher Dan Haren from the Arizona
Diamondbacks in exchange for Joe Saunders, minor league pitchers Patrick Corbin, Rafael Rodriguez, and a player to be named later (apparently left-handed pitcher Tyler Skaggs).

In this emotional sound clip, Joe Saunders speaks with Chris Myers after the Angels’ announcement that he had been traded, along with three others, to the Arizona Diamondbacks for Dan Haren.

Saunders pitched for six seasons for the Angels, compiling a 54-32 record with a 4.29 ERA.

Tony Reagins gives his explanation about how the acquisition of Dan Haren effects the ballclub, not just for 2010 but for the future.

Click here for LA Angels Insider Podcast – Joe Saunders and Tony Reagins

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MLB Trade News: Arizona to get Joe Saunders and Tyler Saggs for Haren

The Los Angeles Angels aren’t ready to concede the American League West to the Texas Rangers just yet. 

And Sunday, the organization made an aggressive move to help bolster its chances. 

Los Angeles will send LHP Joe Saunders, LHP Patrick Corbin, RHP Rafael Rodriguez and player to be named later to Arizona in exchange for All-Star RHP Dan Haren. 

According to The Arizona Republic Diamondbacks’ beat writer Nick Piecoro, the player to be named later will be LHP Tyler Skaggs (the No. 40 overall pick in the 2009 Amateur Draft).

Arizona, in addition to getting Haren’s salary off the books, get a proven major leaguer in Saunders (6-10, 4.62 ERA). 

The lefty will cost the Diamondbacks $3.7 million this season and between $6-7 million next year.

Currently six games behind the division-leading Rangers, the Angels came out of nowhere to steal Haren away from a slew of other suitors that included the Detroit Tigers and New York Yankees.

In 2010, Haren has a 4.60 ERA to go along with a 1.35 WHIP. 

His 141 strikeouts lead the National League while his 141 innings pitched ranks fifth. 

Haren is under contract through 2012 with a $15.5 million club option for 2013.  

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Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim’s Joe Saunders Struggling to Find Himself

Joe Saunders undoubtedly went into Monday night’s start against the Milwaukee Brewers feeling good. He had won back-to-back starts for only the second time this year, and in his last six starts he had gone 4-1 with 2 complete games (both against Oakland, one a shutout). Coming back to the Big A, Saunders was set to square off against a Brewers team that was sitting 11 games under .500, with the 18th ranked batting average in MLB.

Those good feelings did not last long. Saunders gave up five runs in the third inning (the big blow coming from Ryan Braun’s booming grand slam), and six runs overall in an unimpressive 5.2 inning performance. He took the loss—his seventh—as the Brewers cake-walked to a 12-2 victory.

As Saunders lights the candles on his 29th birthday cake today, he must be puzzled by his 2010 season.

His record currently sits at 5-7; those seven losses tie his career high (both 2008 and 2009), and it is only June 16th. His ERA is 4.70, which is not too far away from last season’s 4.60 (but quite higher than his career 4.28 mark). His WHIP is 1.49—his career high was 1.52 back in 2007 (in only 18 appearances).

Most troubling of all is Saunders’ control. In 2010 he is averaging 3.9 walks per nine innings, far above his career mark of 3.0. Furthermore, his strikeout-to-walk ratio is an alarming 1.03 (38 strikeouts compared to 37 walks). This number, more than any other, should be cause for Angel fans to be concerned.

While Joe has never been a “strikeout pitcher,” he has always been a pitcher who strikes out many more than he walks. His career K-to-BB ratio is 1.66, and in his All-Star campaign of 2008 the ratio was 1.94 (103 K’s to 53 BB’s). He is currently projected to walk 89 batters this season, which would be 25 more than his career high of 64 last season. At the same time his strikeout projection is just 92. He has never struck out less than 100 batters when making at least 30 starts.

Overall, Joe Saunders’ 2010 season has been  inconsistent. He has been brilliant at times—his 2 complete game victories over Oakland, one by shutout, attest to this. Joe was nearly as brilliant in Toronto on April 17th, when he threw 8 innings and gave up just 2 unearned runs in beating the Blue Jays’ booming bats.

However, Saunders has logged several forgettable 2010 starts as well. Of his 14 starts, Joe only has six quality starts. In seven of his starts he has failed to throw six innings, in three of those he failed to throw five. This is uncharacteristic of a pitcher upon whom Mike Scioscia has been able to rely for over 185 innings each of the last two seasons (198 in ’08, 186 in ’09).

The reason for Saunders’ inconsistency is unclear. Last year’s struggles were rightfully blamed on a sore shoulder (you’ll remember Saunders went on the disabled list with shoulder trouble, and after returning was dominant down the stretch for the Halos). This year, to date, no mention of physical problems has been made. Joe’s fastball velocity is not abnormally off. He has never been a very hard thrower to start with.

Location could certainly be a cause of Joe Saunders’ trouble. For a pitcher like Saunders, who relies on pitching to contact and hitting spots with differing speeds, a loss of command can be deadly. The high walk rate and low strikeout-to-walk ratio this year both lend credence to the idea that Joe’s command has been lacking at times this year.

The gopher ball has been an enemy of Saunders’ in years past, and this year proves to be no exception.

After giving up a career high 29 round-trippers in 2009, the left-hander is serving them up at a similar pace this season. He currently projects to surrender 24 homers—fewer than last season, but higher than any other year. When Saunders does not give up a homer in a start, he is remarkably more effective. Below are his 2010 numbers this year in games where he surrenders a longball, compared to games where he does not:

1 HR allowed (or more): 6 G, 30 IP (5 IP/GS), 46 H, 32 R, 32 ER; 0-5, 9.60 ERA, 2.10 WHIP, 5.1 BB/9

0 HR allowed: 8 G,54.1 IP(6.8 IP/start),43 H, 16 R, 12 ER, 5-2, 1.99 ERA, 1.16 WHIP, 3.31 BB/9

These lines look like two different pitchers. One is an All-Star, the other would struggle to keep a job in the big leagues.

There is no question that the home run ball is trouble for any pitcher, but for Joe Saunders it means the difference between quality pitching and an early shower. The control issue comes up again when looking at these lines as well. Saunders is walking two more batters per nine innings in games where he gives up a homer.

The solution for Saunders seems clear from this data, and it is not a novel solution either: throw strikes and keep the ball in the yard.

Mike Butcher needs to work with Joe Saunders to figure out if there is a flaw in Joe’s delivery, or if any kind of adjustment can be made to improve his control. When he is on his game (as the numbers above bear out), Joe Saunders is an All-Star lefty who can anchor any rotation in baseball. When he is not on his game, however, it is unlikely he will be able to gut out a win.

There is another disparity to consider which is rather surprising: Joe Saunders has pitched remarkably better on the road in 2010. While Angel Stadium is considered a neutral park (even favoring pitchers in night games), this has not been the case for the Virginian lefty:

Saunders at Home in 2010 (8 starts): 1-6, 6.75 ERA, 1.66 WHIP, 8 HR, 44 IP

Saunders on Road in 2010:(6 starts): 4-1, 2.45 ERA, 1.31 WHIP, 2 HR, 40.1 IP

Article continued at LA Angels Insider.com

Ryan VanderYacht is a feature columnist for LA Angels Insider.com    

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